Mystery Photo #2
by Score Bard
2006-08-07 8:56

OK, here’s the second mystery photo. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to help figure out the who/when/where of the photo.

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If you have any old MLB photos that might suit this game, please send ’em in to mystery At humbug .com.

Comments: 24
1.   Eric Enders
2006-08-07 09:19

1.  Well, obviously it's a Yankee lefty at Fenway Park...

Looks to me like the score is 2-0 but it might be 3-0.

2.   Eric Enders
2006-08-07 09:24

2.  It looks exactly like Steve Howe to me...

http://www.bronxpride.com/files/images/Steve%20Howe%20NY.jpg

...but this guy has the wrong uniform #. Howe was #57.

3.   DXMachina
2006-08-07 09:34

3.  Yeah, the number ends in a 4, so 14, 24, 34, 44, or 54. Did the Yanks retire 44?

4.   Cliff Corcoran
2006-08-07 09:36

4.  It's definitely pre-strike because the NY on his cap is less blocky than the current design.

Bottom of the eighth . . . 2-1?

5.   Cliff Corcoran
2006-08-07 09:38

5.  3 They retired 4 for Reggie in the '90s, but I don't think anyone wore it after he signed with the Angels. 14 was Piniella and I don't think that went back into circulation until the Enrique Wilson era and has always been for utility players. 24 was Henderson, then Tino, this could be in between there. Most likely it's a 34. 54 was Goose, though they did give that one away pretty quickly after Goose left. I get a Dave LaPoint vibe off this guy, but I don't think that's right.

6.   Sam DC
2006-08-07 09:38

6.  And the Yankees scored two in the second inning, right?

7.   Peter
2006-08-07 09:41

7.  Bob MacDonald was a lefty reliever in '95 (the same year as the other picture) and wore number 34. I can't find another picture of him, though, for comparison.

8.   Sam DC
2006-08-07 09:43

8.  Here's the fenway scoreboard. http://tinyurl.com/phleg

It looks like maybe two balls, probably two strikes, and definitely two outs.

9.   Ken Arneson
2006-08-07 09:43

9.  I think the score is 8-2 Red Sox. Two or three runs in the first, three or five in the seventh.

10.   Eric Enders
2006-08-07 09:44

10.  I think the score is either 2-0 Yankees or 3-2 Sox. The Yankes look like they scored 2 in the second, while the Sox might have scored 3 in the first, although that could be a zero instead.

11.   Ken Arneson
2006-08-07 09:45

11.  Or maybe 8-3.

12.   Cliff Corcoran
2006-08-07 09:46

12.  I think It's Jerry Nielsen (#34) in this game:

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B10040BOS1992.htm

October 4, 1992, Fenway Park.
Sox leading 8-2 in the bottom of the eighth.

Here's the action:

RED SOX 8TH: NIELSEN REPLACED SPRINGER (PITCHING); Hatcher lined to right; Cooper walked; Wedge forced Cooper (pitcher to
shortstop) [Wedge to first]; RIVERA BATTED FOR VAUGHN; Rivera struck out

13.   Cliff Corcoran
2006-08-07 09:47

13.  Based on 9 I think I nailed it.

Props to this site for the help with uniform numbers:

http://www.yankeenumbers.com

14.   Sam DC
2006-08-07 09:48

14.  12 Well, fine. But what pitch?
:)

15.   Cliff Corcoran
2006-08-07 09:49

15.  The long sleaves support the October 4 date.

Here's a baseball card of Nielsen I found on-line:

http://www.grandstandsports.com/images/19451.jpg

Note the two strands of leather coming off his glove in both photos.

16.   Sam DC
2006-08-07 09:50

16.  Oh wait, are you saying it's the strikeout pitch to Rivera?

17.   Cliff Corcoran
2006-08-07 09:52

17.  If there are two outs per 8 he's definitley pitching to Luis Rivera, though I don't know how to find pitch-by-pitch data on a game from 1992, so I can't tell you if the 2-2 pitch was a ball, a foul, or strike three.

18.   Cliff Corcoran
2006-08-07 09:54

18.  Taking a look at the link from 8 there's no way there's more than one ball on this count. It's a 0-2 or a 1-2 pitch with two outs to Luis Rivera from Jerry Nielsen in the bottom of the eighth inning at Fenway Park on 10/4/92, Sox winning by the eventual final score of 8-2.

19.   Sam DC
2006-08-07 10:04

19.  Livan to the Diamondbacks, by the way. More info at the end of the Dodger Thoughts comments.

20.   Eric Enders
2006-08-07 10:07

20.  Complete list of Yankee lefties with uniform numbers ending in 4, 1988-94:

Rob Murphy
Sterling Hitchcock
Jerry Nielsen
Walt Terrell

Googling pictures....

It's definitely not Hitchcock. The nose is all wrong, for one thing.

It doesn't look like an unmistachioed Walt Terrell, although the pitching motion is somewhat similar.
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/images/2003/01/10/QoDUd9iI.jpg

There's somewhat of a resemblance to Nielsen, who was obviously in the habit of pitching with his mouth open like this guy is:
http://www.geocities.com/nolefan_fsu/baseball/nielsen_jerry.html

He also looks like Murphy a little bit; the ears look similar:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20030328/numbers_murphy.jpg

I'm guessing it's Nielsen but leaving open the possibility that it could be Murphy.

21.   Eric Enders
2006-08-07 10:08

21.  Ah, nothing like spending half an hour on a post and then finding it completely irrelevant once you finally post it. ;)

22.   Shaun P
2006-08-07 10:13

22.  This is a very interesting game. At first glance I thought it was Tim Leary (he wore #54) but I don't remember Leary being that pudgy looking.

Leary did once pitch into the 8th at Fenway for the Yanks (6/16/92) - but the score in the 8th was 2-1 Boston, which doesn't fit what the scoreboard in the photo seems to say.

23.   Eric Enders
2006-08-07 10:24

23.  Leary had a longer face and was right-handed.

He was a helluva hitter, though.

24.   Shaun P
2006-08-07 11:35

24.  23 Wow, talk about memory failing you. For years I've "remembered" Leary being a lefty, but you're right - he was a righty.

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