Athletics-Tigers, ALCS Game 1 Chat
by Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 16:00

I have a ticket for Game 2 and Game 7, but I’ll be watching this one on TV.

The good news: the radio and TV announcing crews for the series are apparently devoid of any cursed Bucks.

Lineups:

Detroit Tigers
C. Granderson cf
P. Polanco 2b
S. Casey 1b
M. Ordonez rf
C. Guillen ss
I. Rodriguez c
C. Monroe lf
M. Thames dh
B. Inge 3b

Oakland Athletics
J. Kendall c
M. Kotsay cf
M. Bradley rf
F. Thomas dh
J. Payton lf
E. Chavez 3b
N. Swisher 1b
M. Scutaro ss
D. Jimenez 2b

Comments: 168
1.   Shaun P
2006-10-10 15:28

1.  I'm sure I'm not the only Yankees' fan saying this, but, GO A'S!!!!!

2.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 15:42

2.  What did I do to make the layout of this page so weird? How did I screw this up? Sorry, just talking to myself.

3.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 15:47

3.  There, maybe that fixed it.

4.   BlueMamma
2006-10-10 16:08

4.  i don't know ken. brenneman and lyons is hardly a team to rejoice over.

5.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 16:18

5.  Did you read the second link? Anybody not named Buck is someone to rejoice over.

6.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 16:25

6.  On the days I take BART into work -- like today -- I park at the Coliseum BART station. And it will be the weirdest sensation in the world to get off at that station and walk away from where the playoff game is taking place.

Even weirder: I will be watching this game through the miracle of time-shifting, so I will be doing my darndest to avoid learning what's happening at a stadium less than a quarter-mile from where I'm parked.

7.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 16:26

7.  6 What? You can shift the space-time continuum? I...I never knew!

8.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 16:29

8.  7 I keep many of my powers under wraps. For society's good as well as my own.

9.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 16:34

9.  Wow. My life is becoming more like an episode of Heroes every day.

10.   das411
2006-10-10 16:45

10.  Grr Ken, I read a review of that show in USAtoday 2 weeks ago and I have had that infernal David Bowie song stuck in my head ever since!!

11.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 16:47

11.  10 Me, too, actually. But there are worse songs to have stuck in your head.

12.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 16:57

12.  11 "Fashion," for starters.

Well, I'm off to BART now and into my Cone of Silence.

13.   Vishal
2006-10-10 17:02

13.  mlb.com is still not working for me! i can't watch the game. arrrrrrrghhhhh.

14.   Linkmeister
2006-10-10 17:03

14.  Philip has obviously never spent any time in Hawai'i, where for years our local TV stations would delay baseball playoff games until after the early news. We'd spend those days avoiding radio stations; our first words when answering telephone calls were "Don't tell me the score!"

Fortunately for those of us who work at home, we now see them live (whoops! Gotta run!).

15.   Linkmeister
2006-10-10 17:07

15.  Hmm. Actually there was no need to avoid radio stations, just the news broadcasts emanating from same.

16.   Vishal
2006-10-10 17:13

16.  no foxsports.com, no espn.com either. i don't understand.

17.   BlueMamma
2006-10-10 17:17

17.  5 - aha! what's funny is that, having read the second link i remember reading that article the day it was written. so, fox bucks off, eh?

18.   Vishal
2006-10-10 17:20

18.  since the A's won the last series, bucks and all, isn't it safe to conclude that they aren't really cursed?

19.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 17:23

19.  18 There were Joe Buck commercials, but no one named Buck was a broadcaster for the last series.

20.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 17:26

20.  Well, Zito looked like Zito in the first inning. Hope he wasn't hurt on that comebacker.

21.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 17:27

21.  Hey, they just showed a view from Alameda.

22.   Vishal
2006-10-10 17:43

22.  i can't tell because i am not actually able to watch the game, but so far on gamechannel this is looking like zito's minnesota game...

23.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 17:45

23.  Zito looks like he has better control today than in Minnesota, especially with his changeup.

24.   Vishal
2006-10-10 17:46

24.  ah. detroit's hitters are just as aggressive though.

25.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 17:51

25.  Ah, looks like Detroit has a better scouting report on Scutaro than Minnesota did. Keep it low and away.

26.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 17:59

26.  Ugh. That's just good hitting by Inge. It wasn't a bad pitch.

The pitch to Granderson was a bad pitch, though.

27.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:00

27.  crap.

28.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:01

28.  has zito been ahead of the count on anyone?

29.   Sam DC
2006-10-10 18:05

29.  I gather untarping would be against some or other mlb rule?

30.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:07

30.  Ugh. Again.

31.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 18:08

31.  29
It was the A's choice.

32.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:08

32.  This game could be over quickly if Zito doesn't come up big here.

33.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:09

33.  Zito must be nervous

34.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 18:09

34.  Sigh of relief.

35.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:10

35.  Whew. That coulda been worse.

36.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:10

36.  Zito got out of it cheaply enough.

37.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:10

37.  wow, an 0-2 count!

38.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:11

38.  Zito seemed to be afraid to throw his changeup when he got runners on base. Don't know why he hasn't thrown it more; it's been his best pitch today. He got Guillen with a changeup there.

39.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:11

39.  and he got the out. go figure!

40.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:13

40.  let's see how the A's bounce back

41.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 18:16

41.  Kendall has looked good in both at bats.

42.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:18

42.  can Milton Bradley deliver?

43.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:18

43.  Ugh. Not our day today so far.

44.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:18

44.  guess not

45.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:18

45.  ARRRRRRGH.

46.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 18:22

46.  Ump is not calling the curve for strikes.

Crap.

47.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:23

47.  They're sitting on the changeup now, since that's the only pitch he's getting over.

48.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:23

48.  is it time to hang our heads yet?

49.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 18:24

49.  Get Kennedy ready?

50.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:25

50.  this is disgusting.

51.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:25

51.  the Tigers look like there on a mission

52.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 18:25

52.  Jimenez your job is to play defense!

53.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:25

53.  Oh, man, we miss Ellis now.

54.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:26

54.  Jerry Crawford is probably the worst possible umpire assignment for Zito.

thepastime.net/2006/10/alcs-umpire-preview.html

55.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:27

55.  i just noticed that b.inge spells binge.

56.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:27

56.  Time to warm up Blanton, I think.

57.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:27

57.  Nope, Gaudin.

58.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:28

58.  Zito has had two runs score that shouldn't have.

59.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 18:29

59.  Should have gotten him up much sooner.

60.   For The Turnstiles
2006-10-10 18:29

60.  Gaudin would be an odd choice for an umpire with a small strike zone.

61.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:29

61.  Time to warm up Blanton, I think.

he's the little version of Brad Penny right?

62.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:31

62.  i miss spacious parks like the colisioum (?)

63.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:31

63.  Time to pull Zito.

64.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:32

64.  yeah, he's registered 5 runs. macha equation says it's time to go.

65.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:33

65.  I wonder what Zito & Boras are thinking right now?

66.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:33

66.  60 I agree. But maybe they're afraid they'll need him in Game 3 if Harden doesn't have it.

67.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:36

67.  i'm wondering how many come from behind wins the A's have this year

68.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:36

68.  [65] i don't know what boras is thinking, but i'd like to hope that zito is thinking more about the A's playoff chances than his contract.

69.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:39

69.  {68}

very true

70.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 18:43

70.  If only we could give Big Hurt leg transplants.

71.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:43

71.  look at those fighting A's!

72.   das411
2006-10-10 18:48

72.  Time for Nate Robertson to earn some clutch...

73.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:50

73.  2 strikeouts with runners on 2nd and 3rd. that's disappointing; i was looking for a very creative double play ball.

74.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 18:53

74.  No magic today for Marco.

75.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 18:53

75.  well that's not good for A's fans

76.   das411
2006-10-10 18:53

76.  Nice big strike zone, the ump must want to go watch BOSTON LEGAL at 10pm!

77.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 18:57

77.  76
He must have a bet on Tito Ortiz against Shamrock.

78.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 18:59

78.  I wonder how many people actually read Moneyball that mention it.

79.   Vishal
2006-10-10 18:59

79.  [73] on the other hand, entire side striking out against nate robertson is pretty impressive too.

80.   Vishal
2006-10-10 19:04

80.  that's now 4 out of 5 innings the A's have gotten the leadoff man on, with nary a run to show for it.

81.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:04

81.  Jim Leyland wears spikes while managing. weird.

82.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 19:05

82.  Gotta make 'em burn Zumaya for two innings tonight, if nothing else.

83.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:05

83.  they gotta score now no? 3rd time's the charm.

84.   regfairfield
2006-10-10 19:06

84.  Lou Pinnella: terrible color man, or worst color man?

85.   Vishal
2006-10-10 19:08

85.  hahahahah oh man.

86.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 19:09

86.  This is a total butt-kicking.

87.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 19:09

87.  84
When he says something dumber than 22 hrs do not mean much if you only get 43 rbi then yes, but until then Joe Morgan still wins.

88.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:09

88.  84

he gives McCarver a run for his money (avious meter galore)

89.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 19:10

89.  So is he just terrible.

90.   dianagramr
2006-10-10 19:10

90.  well .... if the guy hits solo hrs and doesn't hit well with men on base, then it almost makes sense for him to state that

91.   scarface
2006-10-10 19:11

91.  Unbelievable: 3 double plays, and an inning with 3 straight Ks with RISP. Detroit is playing exactly the kind of ball I expected from Oakland. Man, watching two tight teams is not fun when the one you support stops being tight.

92.   Vishal
2006-10-10 19:11

92.  what's an avious meter?

93.   das411
2006-10-10 19:14

93.  I should think that is pretty obvious Vish...

94.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:15

94.  92

obvious, oops sorry.

95.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:17

95.  So is he just terrible.

true, but he kicks dirt at home plate with the best of 'em.

96.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 19:18

96.  The A's have turned into the Twins. Mistakes, mistakes, mistakes.

97.   Vishal
2006-10-10 19:19

97.  [93] yeah, if the game was going better i wouldn't have asked ;)

98.   Vishal
2006-10-10 19:20

98.  anyone mind explaining ordonez' "single to third" in the 3rd inning, and granderson's "single to first" just now?

99.   scarface
2006-10-10 19:21

99.  Well, hopefully, the A's have decided to get all their sloppiness out today...as well as repaying all the good karma they've had in the first 3 games. A broken finger was not enough apparently...

100.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 19:21

100.  98 A ball just off Chavez' glove, and Kennedy didn't get over to first base to cover the bag.

101.   vockins
2006-10-10 19:24

101.  Fox Trax Sux

102.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:24

102.  i guess being a color guy demands you to be obvious, did you guys here Lou Pinella just now?

103.   Vishal
2006-10-10 19:25

103.  [100] ah, thanks. tsk, tsk.

104.   scarface
2006-10-10 19:25

104.  Re.96:
Exactly what I was thinking. This is normally how the A's get their opponents to lose. Very irritating to see us getting some of that medicine.

BTW, anyone know what happened to Chris Shelton? I thought I heard some grumbles of discontent from the blogosphere when he was demoted in favor of Sean Casey in spite of getting off to a homer-happy start. If Casey's hurt now, will we see an actually better Chris Shelton?

105.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:26

105.  102

"that was a nice tight curve ball by Kennedy"

106.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 19:26

106.  Shelton isn't on the roster.

107.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 19:28

107.  At least Thom has not mentioned the D-Backs 5 times yet.

108.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 19:29

108.  This would be a good time for Chavez to launch one.

109.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:32

109.  i don't think the FOX gun is accurate.

110.   scarface
2006-10-10 19:32

110.  I don't feel good about the Chavvy walk. All it does is set up another freaking DP.

111.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:33

111.  this would be a nice time for Swisher to launch one

112.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 19:33

112.  Swisher is more likely just to strike out than hit into a DP.

113.   Linkmeister
2006-10-10 19:33

113.  110 I was gonna ask, do the As just not put runners in motion to avoid DPs? After what, 3 of them tonight, would they change their mind?

114.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:34

114.  i refuse to think the FOX guns is accurate

115.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 19:37

115.  Can't buy a clutch hit.

116.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 19:38

116.  113 No, and no.

117.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:38

117.  if anything Lou Pinella is making me chuckle.

118.   Bob Timmermann
2006-10-10 19:44

118.  My hotel in Sapporo does not carry the channel that is showing this game. I'm listening to the A's radio broadcast.

119.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:49

119.  118

you're missing out Bob, Lou Pinella is on a roll.

120.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 19:53

120.  Aaaaaaaaaand, we're back in real time.

That was an unpleasant TiVo experience, let me tell you.

121.   Bob Timmermann
2006-10-10 19:56

121.  I suppose I shouldn't have worn my Detroit Tigers t-shirt today.

It's very wet now. That might have something to do with the fact that it's raining here and the trains were all stuffy and humid to boot.

122.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 19:57

122.  You know the problem with no longer watching this on TiVo? I now have to listen to the Fox announcers.

Ye gods...

123.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 19:58

123.  121

what time is it out there Bob?

124.   Bob Timmermann
2006-10-10 19:59

124.  It is noon in Japan.

125.   Bob Timmermann
2006-10-10 20:00

125.  I should also add that it's noon on Wednesday. I've seen the future! And it's somewhat soggy and full of North Korean nuclear tests.

126.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 20:01

126.  english shot by Kendal!!

127.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 20:03

127.  Man, both Bob and Philip can bend time. Can you make time go backwards so we can play this game over?

128.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 20:04

128.  Ricky Henderson sighting.

129.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 20:05

129.  Four double plays. Sigh.

130.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 20:06

130.  127 Ever since Superman pulled that stunt in the first movie, I've disdained it.

131.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 20:06

131.  do the A's fall victim of DP's this bad all the time??

132.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 20:08

132.  Lou Pinella on Joe Blanton: "He's a pitcher."

Thank God. I thought he was a welder.

133.   scareduck
2006-10-10 20:11

133.  131 - they led the AL with 170.

134.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 20:13

134.  And now begins the greatest comeback in A's history.

135.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 20:14

135.  132

hey easy my Dad was a welder.

ps but yeah obvious meter galore.

136.   das411
2006-10-10 20:14

136.  Do the Tigers really not have some Jason Grilli type innings-eater they can use in this situation instead of Zumaya??

137.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 20:14

137.  133

wow

138.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 20:16

138.  133 And they didn't even have Ben Grieve in their lineup!

139.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 20:16

139.  This A-Rod Pepsi commercial where he's offered a job in the beverage distribution industry takes on special poignancy these days.

140.   Bob Timmermann
2006-10-10 20:16

140.  134

Umm...

What about the 10-run inning in the 1929 World Series when the A's overcame an 8-0 deficit to the Cubs in the 8th?

141.   Bob Timmermann
2006-10-10 20:17

141.  136
You don't want to eat innings here. You want to win the game.

142.   scarface
2006-10-10 20:17

142.  Re.131:
Bluebleeder, I would say no: somewhat bad, but not THIS bad - from just my memory. In fact, I thought they hustled enough to just stay out of enough DPs to keep things going. But these commentators are making a big deal out of the A's season DP numbers, so maybe this is not too far out of the norm for Oakland. I guess it's possible that the team is not prepared enough or amped up enough since they basically accomplished their goal already (1st round barrier). Also, the Detroit pitchers and hitters do seem to be particularly well-prepared/scout-informed compared to the Twins (example, the way they pitch to Scooter, Swisher, etc).

143.   Bob Timmermann
2006-10-10 20:17

143.  ATHLETICS 7TH: Simmons homered; Foxx singled to right; Miller
singled to center [Foxx to second]; Dykes singled to left [Foxx
scored, Miller to second]; Boley singled to right [Miller
scored, Dykes to third]; BURNS BATTED FOR ROMMEL; Burns popped
to shortstop; Bishop singled to center [Dykes scored, Boley to
third]; NEHF REPLACED ROOT (PITCHING); Haas hit an inside the
park homer to center [Boley scored, Bishop scored]; Cochrane
walked; BLAKE REPLACED NEHF (PITCHING); Simmons singled to left
[Cochrane to second]; Foxx singled [Cochrane scored, Simmons to
second]; MALONE REPLACED BLAKE (PITCHING); Miller was hit by a
pitch [Simmons to third, Foxx to second]; Dykes doubled to left
[Simmons scored, Foxx scored, Miller to third]; Boley struck
out; Burns struck out; 10 R, 10 H, 0 E, 2 LOB. Cubs 8,
Athletics 10.

144.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 20:19

144.  140 You're telling me Sheriff Blake is the moral equivalent of Joel Zumaya?

Besides, every time the A's are trailing in the eighth by more than 3 ones, I say, "And so begins the greatest comeback in A's history."

And when it actually pans out, I'm going to look like a freakin' genius.

145.   das411
2006-10-10 20:21

145.  Woah wait why is Guillen at 1B??

146.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 20:23

146.  145 Sean Casey was assumed bodily into heaven.

And he tweaked his back on a swing.

147.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 20:23

147.  Casey got hurt.

148.   xaphor
2006-10-10 20:24

148.  121. I will be disappointed if Bob wears the checkered jersey tomorrow.

149.   Bob Timmermann
2006-10-10 20:24

149.  146
That can't be. It's not August 15.

150.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 20:28

150.  146 Calf, not back.

151.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 20:30

151.  150 Ah yes. Calf. Sorry.

152.   Bob Timmermann
2006-10-10 20:31

152.  148
I didn't pack the checkered jersey. Although the AL Wild Card team is doing well.

153.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 20:32

153.  152 You mean you didn't need it to help you stand out in a crowd?

154.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 20:33

154.  And now continues the greatest comebac... aw forget it.

155.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 20:34

155.  the A's need a Dodger vs Padres type inning here.

156.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 20:35

156.  OK, I'm hoping that Macha pinch-hits for Jimenez, and then the A's tie it up, and Mark Kiger makes his major league debut in extra-innings in a playoff game.

157.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 20:37

157.  hope runs iternal

158.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 20:38

158.  Well, I suppose a double play here would be a fitting way to end this game.

159.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 20:39

159.  Thom Brennaman on Todd Jones: "One of the most engaging guys you'll ever meet."

Well, unless you're gay.

http://tinyurl.com/nqylo

160.   trainwreck
2006-10-10 20:39

160.  So close.

161.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 20:40

161.  We can't even get that.

162.   Ken Arneson
2006-10-10 20:42

162.  Oh, well. We'll see if I can bring 'em some luck tomorrow.

163.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 20:44

163.  Inge will be praiced tomorrow by all Detriot news outlet's.

164.   Philip Michaels
2006-10-10 20:44

164.  162 Exactly. 5-1. 3-2. 200-2. All losses count the same, and tomorrow is another day.

165.   scarface
2006-10-10 20:51

165.  Re.162:
How're you going to do that, Ken? Gotta to do a double-play fast! Head to the concessions stand every time the A's get a runner on base...

166.   Bluebleeder87
2006-10-10 20:53

166.  162

you're A's mojo must be really good while attending games.

167.   Xeifrank
2006-10-10 22:20

167.  DodgerSims blogspot had the Tigers with a .536 pythagorean probability of winning tonight's game. Tomorrow's prediction/sim will be up within the hour. Cards are slight favorites tomorrow assuming Floyd is not playing. vr, Xei

168.   Xeifrank
2006-10-10 23:48

168.  Tomorrow's sim prediction:
A's pythagorean win expectancy is .545
Good luck tomorrow A's fans. vr, Xei
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