OK, Take A Guess by Ken Arneson 2006-08-29 11:14 Who is currently leading the 2006 Oakland A’s in Win Shares? Got your guess? OK, now go check out the answer. You were wrong, weren’t you? Uncategorized « And The Next A’s Manager Will Be Dick Williams Mystery Photo #9 » Comments: 16 1. Eric Enders2006-08-29 11:171. I'll guess Huston Street. 2. Eric Enders2006-08-29 11:172. That is just insane. 3. Shaun P2006-08-29 11:193. Incredible. Billy Beane really is a genius after all. 4. Sam DC2006-08-29 11:264. Big Hurt? 5. Sam DC2006-08-29 11:295. I guess that Fast set him right. 6. DXMachina2006-08-29 11:346. Wow, he wins more games with his glove than even Cesar Izturis. 7. mehmattski2006-08-29 11:357. Yeah, but check out VORP: http://tinyurl.com/o5mg8 Has JK really added 3 wins (defensive WS/3) on the basis of his defense? Thomas, Zito, Haren, Swisher and Kendall are all around 10 WSAB. 8. Bob Timmermann2006-08-29 11:378. That guy leads in Win Shares? You're doing to me what I just did about 45 minutes ago before I left. 9. Ken Arneson2006-08-29 11:419. If six of the top ten most valuable fielders in baseball by win shares (our hero being #1) are catchers , it makes me think that maybe there's something wrong with the formula. You'd think a SS, 2B, or CF would/should have the best odds of coming up on top. 10. Eric Enders2006-08-29 11:4910. FWIW, I've always thought the win shares formula for catcher's defense and 1B defense are 100% worthless. For all the other positions, I think it does a pretty good job. 11. Uncle Miltie2006-08-29 14:0911. Wow...haha 12. Voxter2006-08-29 19:4112. My brother and I both guessed Dan Haren. I'm shocked that it's Jason Kendall, but given that I have very little trust in defensive WS -- and almost none in WS for catcher defense -- I don't feel too bad about it. Our second guess was Nick Swisher. 13. scarface2006-08-29 20:4113. I'm not saying I trust those WS ratings that much (also, they are not rate-based, and will reflect Kendall's no. of games played, right?). BUT, Kendall no longer inspires hate at the plate from me. I was always comfortable with his play-calling; now he seems quite trust-worthy at throwing out runners, and getting on base as well (no power tohugh, I know). And his "alertness" or "veteran savvy", for lack of a better word, is unparallelled - he must hold some kind of record at getting on base or getting runners out by unconventional means - at the most opportune moments. He just threw out Hinske, saving Saarloos some work. 14. Uncle Miltie2006-08-29 23:4414. Kendall is the best I've ever seen at "causing" batters interference. He's actually done it to end a few games. 15. voxpoptart2006-08-30 09:2015. If you read Bill James's explanation of the Win Shares formulas for catcher, and look at the results it produces over time, i think you WILL find its relative ratings of catchers convincing. He's identified and eliminated a huge number of measurement biases, and left something which seems like it correctly identifies the nimble, sure-handed, and strong-armed: reputations and Win Shares correlate very nicely. That said, the total number of Win Shares he assigns to catcher is kinda strange, given that he's not trying to measure game-calling ability. I think it's done to compensate for the weak hitting of catchers, and it's a very indirect way of doing that. 16. standuptriple2006-08-31 08:3317. 14 The 2 often gets a bad rap, but those guys are field generals out there. Causing interference is a small, but important, trick of the trade. Much respect for the Tools of Ignorance. Comments on this post are closed.